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This document pertains mostly to the email discussion forums hosted by BalloonHQ.com. It needs desperately to be revamped. For the newer services we offer, notably for the support we offer to paying members, read about BHQ membership. For common questions about balloons, refer to the Guide to Balloons and Ballooning.
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Last updated 28 April 2004
This document covers some basic information about balloon information on the net. The current version of this document can be found on the web at http://www.balloonhq.com/faq/faq.html, on the 12th of each month is is sent to each of the balloon twister and balloon decorator mailing lists, and it is sent automatically to all new list subscribers. This document is not intended to be a comprehensive guide to balloons. That can be found in the "Guide to Balloons and Ballooning" on the web pages mentioned below. The purpose of this document is to help you find information about balloons. If you have a question about balloons or balloon related services on the net, look at the Guide before sending your questions to the maintainers of this document or members of the mailing lists.
These unmoderated mailing lists have been established to bring balloon entertainers and decorators together for the discussion of balloon entertaining and decorating, or anything else related to toy and decorative balloons (as opposed to hot air balloons).
Anyone with an interest in balloon twisting, balloon entertaining, or the commercial balloon business is welcome to join. Topics range from new balloons, bouquets, and sculptures, to the materials, tools and detailed techniques used to create them. Exchange of new themes, ideas, balloon book reviews, suggestions and tips is encouraged. Other welcome subjects include products you'd like to see, certification issues, conventions, problems (both gripes and solutions!) encountered in the balloon business, etc. If you have a question about ballooning, don't hesitate to ask it here - you'll get plenty of answers! The lists consist of people at many levels, so there is likely to be someone that can answer your questions or benefit from your suggestions. Feel free to write a paragraph or two introducing yourself to the other list members when you subscribe.
The balloon and balloondeco lists exist in two forms:
First decide which list(s) you want to be on. That's entirely up to you. There's no qualifying exam or application process to restrict membership. You don't need to have any background as a twister or decorator to join any list or to take part in discussions. Most importantly, this is a free service. Balloon HQ does offer more advanced services for fees, and we do hope that everyone using it at any level chooses to support our efforts, but that's up to you. Use the free stuff for a while and determine for yourself if you wish to become a full member. (Note that members do get additional support. Some people have experienced problems using some email service providers to send email to BHQ mailing lists. A web interface exists for paying members.)
How to subscribe to the email reflector form of the list:
Send an email to email@example.com with the word "subscribe" on the subject line to join the sculpting list.
Send an email to firstname.lastname@example.org with the word "subscribe" on the subject line to join the decorating list.
Note: You can also subscribe to either mailing list through the subscription web interface.
How to subscribe to the digest form of the list:
The easiest way to do this is through the subscription web interface.
Subscribing is handled by an automated emailing list manager (ecartis). You will be sent return notification that you subscribed, as the mini-FAQ list with answers.
You can post messages either via email or the web interface. In order to send email to the discussion lists, you need to be a subscriber of the lists or a paying BHQ member. In order to use the web interface, you must be a paying member of BalloonHQ.
The web interface can be found at http://www.balloonhq.com/mail/.
All mail sent to email@example.com will be distributed to everyone on the twister's list, provided you are subscribed to the list (in either reflector or digest form) and have been subscribed for at least 4 days.
All mail sent to firstname.lastname@example.org will be distributed to everyone on the decorator's list, provided you are subscribed to the list (in either reflector or digest form) and have been subscribed for at least 4 days.
While we feel that everyone has a voice worth hearing and we do want everyone to contribute to discussions, it is not unusual for new subscribers to jump into discussions without being aware of common list etiquette. We just want you to be around long enough to get a feel for discussions before jumping in. The list administrator is sometimes placed in a funny position of having to point out to new subscribers that they have posted something improper. We hope that in 4 days time you are able to become familiar with the list and the types of discussions we have.
Let's start by telling you what not to do. Do not send mail to the mailing list address asking hundreds of people to unsubscribe you. Most of the people that read that mail can't help you. Those that can help, won't. There's an automated way of unsubscribing that makes life easier for the list administrator. Only if you run into a problem should you ask the list administrator to help you. The list administrator will help if he can, but he's often unable to respond quickly.
How to UN-subscribe from the BHQ email lists:
Send an email to email@example.com with the word "unsubscribe" on the subject line to unsubscribe from the sculpting list.
Send an email to firstname.lastname@example.org with the word "unsubscribe" on the subject line to unsubscribe from the decorating list.
Note: You can also un-subscribe from either mailing list through the subscription web interface.
Unsubscribing is handled by an automated emailing list manager (ecartis). You will be sent return notification that you unsubscribed. Make sure you unsubscribe this way so you don't waste Larry's time!!!! If you try to unsubscribe and get a message back that your address could not be found, please make sure you sent your request to the proper address listed above, from the address you subscribed with.
(This question only applies to the balloon and balloon deco lists.)
If you receive the non-digest form of the list and you find that messages from this list are filling your mailbox and becoming a distraction during the day, you may wish to receive the mailings in "digest" form. To change the way you receive the mail:
Send an email to the list request address (email@example.com or firstname.lastname@example.org) with the subject set digest
Note: You can also change the form you receive the mailing lists of either mailing list through the subscription web interface.
Unsubscribe from the list using your old address. Then resubscribe to the list from your new address.
The Guide to Balloons and Ballooning is the most comprehensive collection of balloon information around. Of course, to be useful, you have to use it. When possible, check the archive and Guide before asking a general question that may already have been answered. With everyone's help, much of the material is being rewritten more clearly. It just takes time and help from lots of people. If you want to contribute something to the Guide, get in touch with Mark (mbalzer@BalloonHQ.com)
Before answering that question, we would like to make it clear that these mailing lists are not moderated or in any way censored. Aside from the fact that we want these lists to become a powerful clearing-house for balloon discussion and information sharing, censoring material would require far more work than we care to put into it. For this reason, we ask that everyone become familiar with and cooperate with the rules below.
Let's start by telling you what not to post to the mailing lists.
Items not relating to balloons
One sentence messages without mention of balloons ("Me too!", "I agree", "Wonderful!!!", "Good luck", "Keep me posted" or "Thanks for the advice, I'll try it")
Personal replies without mention of balloons ("send me a catalog too" or "fax me a picture")
Copyrighted material for which you have not been given explicit permission to post.
Suggested prices for various types of jobs
So what can you post to the mailing lists?
Balloon-related answers and comments.
But PLEASE don't initiate surveys asking people to respond to the mailing list. If you want to take a survey in order to... sdkjfhgosdh for instance, one person should write an email like this:
I want your opinions on sdkjfhgosdh. If you have a favorite sdkjfhgosdh, email me about it privately at email@example.com. Please do not post your opinions directly to the mailing list. When I get all the responses, I will summarize them and post the summary back to the list. Thanks.
Other information about what can legally/ethically be posted is available on the web pages. Please consult the full mailing list rules for details of what is and is not permissable.
If you have questions or concerns about what is appropriate to post, let the BHQ administrators know by writing to firstname.lastname@example.org.
It is VERY unusual for someone to be removed from one of these lists by the mailing list administrator, but under certain circumstances it can happen. A person will never be removed without first being contacted individually (never publicly) and notified of their inappropriate posting. Only after repeat offenses will someone be removed. Rather than remove someone from the list, we prefer to educate them on proper use of the list and allow them to take part in future discussions.
There is a document that outlines all of the rules of these lists that is sent out at the same time as this document on the 12th of each month and is sent to all new subscribers. It can be found on the web at http://www.balloonhq.com/faq/rules.html. Further guidelines describing what content is expected on these lists is included above, in this document.
In order for a person to be removed, several BHQ staff members must agree that it's the appropriate action. (This is never a decision made by a single person.) In most cases, we don't even consider removing someone for a violation of rules unless other list subscribers send in complaints about misuse of the list first. In other words, we are serious about the rules and maintaining a constructive forum for discussions, but we know that what's appropriate will evolve over time as list membership changes. We do our best to keep these services running in the fashion that our subscribers would like to see. We try hard to not dictate what can be said. These lists are run by you, the subscribers, as much as it is by us, the administrators. We need to hear both postive and negative comments from you regarding list content.
Every so often mail delivery problems occur. This is sometimes the result of a network problem. Other times your service provider may refuse to deliver mail to you. In some cases your email address may even change because of something your ISP has done without informing you. If for any reason your email is undeliverable for several days, you are automatically removed from the mailing list. You can subscribe again as soon as the problem is corrected.
The easiest way to tell if you have been unsubscribed from the list is to do the following:
Also check to see if the mail client you are using to read email has junk mail filtering. If so, you will need to add the BHQ Mailing lists to your safe list.
How to get help with a question/problem related to the list:
Note: Visit the Contact Information page which contains a web interface that will allow you to submit problems.
Send your question via email to: email@example.com or, firstname.lastname@example.org. Anything sent there will be read by one of the administrators. We do our best to get to it fairly quickly. If you prefer, you can send mail directly to BHQemail@example.com. The latter address will go directly to the responsible admin. That person may vary over time, depending on the workload of the usual administrator.
Reporting web page problems:
When you report problems accessing web pages, please give the following information:
There is a directory on the Balloon HQ web site. This directory is intended for professional and amateur balloon workers and suppliers. There is no cost to be listed in or to use the directory.
Balloon HQ is run by people who simply love balloons. Unfortunately, a love of balloons does not pay the expenses associated with providing free mailing list and web page services. To meet these expenses and to provide compensation for the work of maintaining the lists and updating the web pages, Balloon HQ accepts financial support from sponsors. A number of businesses currently support Balloon HQ. However, the maintainers of BHQ will not limit discussion topics or information sharing for the express benefit of any sponsor. So, while other individuals and organizations do support BHQ (and we are grateful for that help), BHQ is run independently of all other balloon organizations.
For a directory of current sponsors, please refer to http://www.balloonhq.com/sponsor/
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